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Dave Kellogg and Thomas Otter interview a broad range of product management experts from around the world. They examine what it takes to build great products for the Enterprise. Twitter: Dave @kellblog and Thomas @vendorprisey.
Dave Kellogg and Thomas Otter interview a broad range of product management experts from around the world. They examine what it takes to build great products for the Enterprise. Twitter: Dave @kellblog and Thomas @vendorprisey.
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Thursday Jul 22, 2021
TSPPB: Dave interviews Aaron Kalb, Alation co-founder
Thursday Jul 22, 2021
Thursday Jul 22, 2021
This show is with Alation cofounder Aaron Kalb. Our topics: design, data, and disagreement in the context of product and product management.
Aaron serves as Alation’s chief data & analytics officer (CDAO) and before that worked as a designer and researcher in Apple’s Siri advanced development group after graduating from Stanford with a master’s in symbolic systems.
Questions include:
- How do you synthesize data-led and design-led product management?
- How did your psychology and software engineering background help you as a product leader?
- How do you hire strong product leaders?
- What was like for a product-oriented cofounder to hand-off the reins to an “outsider” (i.e., newly hired outside expert) product leader?
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